Monday, February 13, 2012

How Dark Does Erotica Get? by guest author Skye Warren

Let’s talk about the most common fantasy for women: the rape fantasy. Why do so many of us have it? I think of it as something elementally feminine, the cavegirl who wants a man capable of dominating us. Or maybe it appeals to my vanity, to know a man wants me so badly that he can’t help himself.

Just because a woman has a fantasy doesn’t mean that she wants to be raped. As Kitty Thomas has said, by definition, someone can’t want what they don’t want. But we can explore our desires through consensual role play and erotica. Nonconsent fiction is hardly new – look at bodice rippers! If anything, I think it’s more taboo now. Current publishing trends eschew forced seduction in favor of women’s lib.

BDSM and nonconsent kink aren’t the same thing, but there’s definitely overlap. BDSM provides a safe, structured environment to explore these dark fantasies. For BDSM erotica, there are certain conventions that are expected like safewords and condoms and other things, some related to safety and some not. I love that stuff and read it plenty!

Although just because it contains realism doesn’t mean it’s not a fantasy. Some of it I might be willing to do in real life. For example, Jeremy from Annabel Joseph’s Comfort Object can call me anytime. Then there is other BDSM fiction that contains realism, but that I would never be willing to do. *cough* Anders from Anneke Jacob’s As She’s Told *cough* It’s a great book, and 100% safe and consensual, but I couldn’t do it.

Then there’s a book like Comfort Food and I think it’s fair to say that none of us really wants to be abducted. Though I’ll admit it didn’t sound nearly as bad right after I’d finished reading it. That’s the sort of thing that is termed dark erotica or captive erotica. There are many examples of it, but not enough in my reader’s opinion!

Captive erotica is a fantasy. It’s rape fantasy. Not a story about two consensual adults playing a rape fantasy, which can be found in Cara McKenna’s Willing Victim, but an actual story of nonconsent. To me this is a huge difference. We can’t really know the author’s intent, unless she tells us, but whether we read this a story as real life versus fantasy will affect our enjoyment.

My current release, Trust in Me, is intended purely as a fantasy for those people who, as I said in my author’s forward, are as fascinated by erotic pain and nonconsent as I am. It’s not a story I want to happen to me or anyone. It’s about indulging in the dark fantasies, even if only for the length of this book.

Check out the blurb to see what I mean:

Can love be found between a whore and a knight in tarnished armor?

Mia longs for the daily torture to end, but one last task keeps her holding on. In a betrayal of the crime lord who pulled her from the gutter, she’ll free the shipment of human cargo, and if she’s lucky, die in the process. The alternative is unfathomable, even to a woman well-versed in erotic torture. But luck abandons her yet again when she meets the security expert in charge of the shipment and finds herself face to face with her childhood crush. The man she once begged for help. The man who failed her.

Tyler Martinez is an undercover FBI agent with one chance to right the wrongs of his past. Thrust deep into the seedy world of human trafficking, he must put aside his guilt over abandoning Mia all those years ago in order to save her now.

Someone’s pulling the strings in this sadistic play on trust, but Tyler and Mia may not live long enough to see the curtain fall. Trust in Me is a story of erotic pain and incipient romance, spiraling ever faster toward betrayal or redemption.

This book contains explicit scenes of dubious consent, graphic violence and sex. It also depicts abuse and captivity situations. Not appropriate for anyone uncomfortable with these situations or anyone under the age of eighteen. This is a work of fiction.

Do you have books that you love, but you’d never want them to actually happen in real life? What are you favorite dark erotica books? I’d be happy to give away a copy of Trust in Me to a random commenter, just be sure to leave your email address in the text of the comment.

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  1. I love the Masters of Shadowland series. There have been a couple of dark books in that series. Actually, any of the books I have read that use human trafficking as a catalyst are books I would not want anyone to have to live through. jepebATverizonDOTnet

  2. I love the Diablo Blanco Club series. I love the whole BDSM scene to read about not sure I could handle it in real life. Thanks for the chance to win a Copy of Trust in Me.

  3. I love the Masters of the Shadowlands, Masters in Arms, @ Midnight Playground series. I also love books by Claire Thompson, which are sometimes darker.
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  4. @JenB Yes, I've read those books as well and loved Make Me, Sir in particular!

    @Tammy Ooh, I haven't gotten to that one yet, but like you, I love to read about things I woudln't want in real life :)

    @June M Oh yes, I love Claire Thompson's book. She definitely writes a broad range, including dark.

  5. If you search for rape on, my book, Cinderella Club, is currently 53rd for relevance. It was higher before. Not sure I should be proud of it or not. But I LOVE non-consent. It's a fantasy for those of us who are very much responsible and independent in our daily lives, who dream of just once not having to be in control.

  6. Hello Skye. As a dominant male, I am probably better served by keeping my lip zipped on this topic:) However, I will throw out the "dark" books that I loved:

    Owned and Owner (Anneke Jacob)
    Submissive Desires (Carolyn Faulkner)
    Judgment (Denise Hall)

    I would also add that The Sleeping Beauty trilogy by Ann Rice (writing as A.N. Roquelaure) has about as much non-consent/capture as anyone could want, though admittedly it's pure fantasy.

    Last, but not least: Who did your cover for you for Trust In Me? It's absolutely brilliant. Thanks!